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Srimad-Bhagavatam classes - Volume #10 (part 13)


Compiled by Damaghosa dasa (Seattle, USA)

Lecture - Mauritius, October 2, 1975

So father was challenging his son, "Where you got this Krishna consciousness?" So the son replied flatly that matir na krsne paratah svato va: "My dear father, this Krishna consciousness cannot be achieved by speculation or by hearing from others." Matir na... Parata means hearing from others, and svatah, svata means personally by mental speculation or philosophical speculation. Mitho. Mitho means by congregational meeting, by conferences. Why? Now, grha-vratanam. If one is addicted to this material way of life, he cannot understand, or cannot be convinced, about Krishna consciousness. In the Bhagavad-gita also, it is said that,

vyavasayatmika buddhih
samadhau na vidhiyate

Those who are too much attached for materialistic way of life - means sense gratification... Materialistic way of life means sense gratification.

Lecture - San Francisco, March 6, 1967

From the beginning of life means... Actually, our life begins at the age of five years. According to Canakya Pandita's niti, it is said that the boys, the children, should be given complete freedom to do anything he likes up to five years, not more than that. Lalayet panca-varsani: "Up to five years a child should be given all freedom." Never mind however miscreant he may be. But from five years to fifteen years - that means a period of ten years - tadayet. Lalayet panca-varsani tadayet dasa-varsani: "You should give all freedom to your child for five years, and then, next ten years, you should be very strict, very strict, so that the child may be very much afraid. And as soon as he attains sixteen years of age, then you should treat him like friend, not, I mean to say, so strictly." These are the moral instruction by Canakya Pandita.

So Prahlada Maharaja advises the bhagavata-dharma. Bhagavata. What is the bhagavata-dharma? Bhagavatan dharman acared yata arthadam etaj janma devadi-janmani maha-visaya avisat. Now, why this life is given so much importance, this human life? There are many other lives, lower and higher. In the higher planets there are demigods. They are far more improved, they are more intelligent, they are more happy than this planet. You must know that the higher planets, the comforts of life is thousand times more. As you go in the higher planetary system, the standard of life, the conveniences, are thousand times greater than in this planet. Therefore the commentator, Sri Jiva Gosvami is that "Why not bhagavata-dharma, cultivate Krishna consciousness, in the life of demigods? Why in this human form of life?" So the answer is that devadi-janma, devadi-janmani maha-visaya avisat. Devadi-janmani. In the lives of demigod, they are puffed up with so much material enjoyments that there is very little chance to become Krishna conscious.

Just like in India still, in this fallen condition of India, whenever there is Bhagavata recitation, thousands of people still will assemble because the benefit is that they are little poverty-stricken than the western people. So Jiva Gosvami says that a person who is too much puffed up with material facilities, it is very difficult for him to come into Krishna consciousness

Lecture - San Francisco, March 6, 1967

So the contradiction was answered by Sukadeva Gosvami, not personally. He took authority. What is that authority? He said immediately, "My dear king, this answer I shall not give you, but a similar answer was put forward by your grandfather, Maharaja Yudhisthira, to your other grandfather, Krishna." Krishna also happened to be grandfather of Maharaja Pariksit. Because Krishna's sister was married to Arjuna and Maharaja Pariksit is the grandson of Subhadra, Arjuna's wife. Therefore Krishna also happens to be grandfather of Maharaja Pariksit, and Maharaja Yudhisthira also happens to be grandfather, being the eldest brother of his grandfather. So Krishna is the authority. Therefore Sukadeva Gosvami is giving authoritative answer as it was spoken by Krishna. This is the way of speaking. One should cite authority. Sukadeva Gosvami was not less authority. As I described the other day that there are twelve authorities. Out of them, Sukadeva Gosvami himself is one of the authorities. But still, he is citing the authority of Krishna. That is the way of presenting things.

Lecture - Montreal, June 10, 1968

Prabhupada: Body of Christ is not ordinary body. That is spiritual body. As Krishna says in the Bhagavad-gita, yada yada hi dharmasya glanir bhavati bharata, paritranaya sadhunam vinasaya ca duskrtam, dharma-samsthapanarthaya yuge yuge sambhavami atma-mayaya. So this is a very subtle point. One has to understand that when God comes or God's son comes or God's representative comes, they do not accept a body like us. They have their spiritual body.

Lecture - Montreal, June 10, 1968

If you have to learn Bhagavad-gita, then you have to learn Bhagavad-gita as Krishna speaks or as Arjuna understands. Just like if you take a medicine bottle. The direction, as it is stated in the bottle, you have to take medicine in that way. You cannot make your own direction, interpretation. We don't accept. We are publishing one book, Bhagavad-gita As It Is. It has been taken by one great publisher, Macmillan Company, and we'll have it by the month of October. Don't interpret. We explain things as they are. That should be the attitude. Why? Why interpretation? By interpretation, there are 664 editions of Bhagavad-gita. One medical man he has interpreted Bhagavad-gita, Krishna is a physician and Arjuna is a patient. And he has tried to explain through Bhagavad-gita all anatomic physiology, not this. These are all artificial attempts. These explanations will never give you the real light from Bhagavad-gita. You try to understand Bhagavad-gita as it is.

Lecture - Montreal, June 10, 1968

Prabhupada: When you are Krishna consciousness your quality of mind is changed. The mind, the understanding of God, is simply purification of the senses. Atah sri-krsna-namadi na bhaved grahyam indriyaih. By the present senses you cannot understand what is God, what is His name, what is His quality, what is His form, what are activities. You have to learn this. The Bhagavad-gita says vetti tattvatah. You have to learn. So now as you say, that mind... Of course, with this mind you cannot understand. You cannot think of Krishna. With this tongue you cannot chant Hare Krishna. With these ears you cannot hear what is Hare Krishna. With these eyes you cannot see what is Krishna. But if you purify... Just like cataractic eyes cannot see, but if you purify the eyes, then you can see everything. The eyes will remain as it is, but you have to purify. The process is purification. Sevonmukhe hi jihvadau.  That purification takes place when you engage yourself in the service of Krishna.

(....To be continued)

Srimad-Bhagavatam classes - Volume #10 (Part 1)

Srimad-Bhagavatam classes - Volume #10 (Part 2)

Srimad-Bhagavatam classes - Volume #10 (Part 3)

Srimad-Bhagavatam classes - Volume #10 (Part 4)

Srimad-Bhagavatam classes - Volume #10 (Part 5)

Srimad-Bhagavatam classes - Volume #10 (Part 6)

Srimad-Bhagavatam classes - Volume #10 (Part 7)

Srimad-Bhagavatam classes - Volume #10 (Part 8)

Srimad-Bhagavatam classes - Volume #10 (Part 9)

Srimad-Bhagavatam classes - Volume #10 (Part 10)

Srimad-Bhagavatam classes - Volume #10 (Part 11)

Srimad-Bhagavatam classes - Volume #10 (Part 12)

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